Utopian vs Nonutopian

Rationality, Logic, Instrumental reason Feeling, emotion, instinct, passion
Nature as spatiotemporal continuum; the known and exploited object of instrumental reason Primitive Nature;  vitalistic, dynamic
World State Small social groupings
Internationalism Nationalism
Science Religion
Urbanization, architecturally controlled space Country, forest, Uncontrolled space
Ethic of self-renunciation, service, and self-discipline Ethic of egocentric self-assertion
Limited or no sexuality, state-controlled families, polygamy, eugenics Sensual pleasure, eroticism, family, monogamous marriage, natural childbirth
Superior modes of communications Debased language
Classless Cooperation, Social Harmony Class hierarchy, social conflict

Pg (29) -brave new world history, science and dystopia 

pg (30) It is not until the appearance of Zamiatin’s We and Huxleys Brave new world that a majority of the categories in column B are treated as positive and desirable or,at the very least, that the values of column A are challenged, reassessed or modified

A Utopian world is a world with no conflict. this means there are no conflict between parties or people or even the inner thoughts of individuals mind.

pg(30) this absence of either inner conflict or social struggle is linked to their avoidance of strong emotions. They regard passion, especially erotic desire, as irrational, destructive of both mental stability and social harmony

  1. Interesting T-Chart of Utopian and Dystopian systems. I would disagree with the lists – I think. Attributing the rational to the Utopian would discount how rational and non-humanistic so many dystopian models are. I would posit that dystopias and utopias alike can be credited with rational and irrational characteristics. That puts me in a camp with the modernist dystopians I guess.

    But I would also question whether Utopian-ism can be characterized by a lack of conflict. This may be a quality desired in utopian fictions, but it might also be noted that the lack of conflict in some utopian worlds resulted in a stagnancy that ultimately was a conflict in and of itself. Maybe I am splitting hairs, but is it possible that no conflict is the inherent conflict of utopia.

    Instead of thinking of conflict as the beginning of the end for a utopia, could it be considered a constant characteristic of a utopia? If so, conflict is present regardless of a society being utopian or dystopian.

    • Hey mike first of all I would like to say thank you for the post the small dystopian novels. I also totally agree with your comment, these models are based on idealistic visions of utopia and anti-utopia. I also step lightly when I hear anti-utopia as opposed to dystopia as sometimes it is referred to other models which are not utopian. Looking at the anti-utopian section one can see it as the present day. I agree about there is no such thing as non conflict in a utopian society but this was it’s dream situation. I read something that made sense of anti-utopia which was “it’s a utopia world seen through a murky glass”. You can see the backstreets and shadows of the utopian society which they try to sweep under the carpet. Thank you for commenting on my post

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